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AVENGERS SECRET WARS: What Does The Film Have to Do to Top Endgame?

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  • CB Team

Avengers: Secret Wars has a massive challenge in trying to top Avengers: Endgame. While I trust RDJ's Doom can be even more compelling than Josh Brolin's Thanos, it's the spectacle that would be required to top that final battle in Endgame.

I think we could see multiple versions of Avengers, X-Men, F4 teams, with some actors playing multiple roles, or every actor who once played the roles showing up again.

But I predict at least we'll see:
Sam's Avengers, New Avengerz (Thunderbolts), alt-version of the classic team (with original actors in new costumes)
X-Men '97 in Live-Action, Fox X-Men (both OT and First Class groups), Deadpool, Wolverine, and Gambit.
MCU F4, Tim Story F4 (maybe even redemption for the Fant4stic crew?)
BUNCH of past fan-castings getting head nods. (Tom Cruise Iron Man, many Wolverines - like Daniel Radcliffe, Taron Edgerton, Mel Gibson as OML.

Basically, if you are NOT in Secret Wars, you'll be the lonely kid in Hollywood on release week.

  • CB Team

I hold the unpopular opinion that Endgame was just okay so I'm honestly not looking for Secret Wars to really challenge anything. As it is, I'm more worried that they're going to try to do too much. We will probably see much of what you suggest and that just seems like a lot.

  • 3 weeks later...

This is such a good topic. “Avengers: Secret Wars” has a huge mountain to climb if it wants to top Endgame, but it’s not impossible. To me, the film will need: emotional stakes that resonate deeply, sacrifices that feel earned, character arcs that finally pay off, and perhaps even letting go of a few favourites in service of the story. It also needs novelty — surprises, scale, and risk — but grounded in what we love about Marvel: the relationships, the hope, the weight of consequence. If it balances spectacle and soul, then maybe, just maybe, it can become the new high water mark.

Going to be hard to top the final scene in action and badass moments.

But I’d love it if there were performances and character arcs that we’ll be talking about during awards consideration. Not because they’d win but it would mean Marvel was taking the actual story and character seriously again.

  • CB Team

I think exploring Dr. Doom’s philosophy could make this movie stand out. He’s always been one of those characters who believes he’s doing the right thing, even when his methods cross the line. If the story takes time to show that perspective instead of just making him a standard villain, RDJ could really bring something powerful to the role.

What made Endgame work so well was the buildup. We had multiple movies that led us there and gave that final battle real weight. With Secret Wars, we’re heading into uncharted territory since we don’t know exactly how much setup there will be or how they’ll handle all the timelines and characters. That uncertainty is exciting, but it also makes me wonder if it can all fit into one film or if it should be spread across two to give it the time it deserves.

I’m also curious how deep they’ll go with the variants and returning characters. Bringing back some of the earlier Fant4stic crew would be a great touch. I have a feeling they’re going to connect the eras. If not in this movie, then definitely in the next one.

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