...What's it going to really take to get this franchise back to being a major box office draw?

Mandalorian & Grogu didn't even break $300 million, after opening on a holiday weekend.

Does there need to be something either so new and exciting, or such a big "event" that people get renewed enthusiasm for the franchise?

I hate to say it, but... I'm not massively surprised at Mandalorian and Grogu. It didn't have a strong enough hook; it was a film made purely for the sake of making a film. There needs to be an actual reason for a film, a pitch, a hook.

14 hours ago, KOutlaw said:

What's it going to really take to get this franchise back to being a major box office draw?

Ryan Gosling (obviously not just him but I do think Starfighter will be a hit, and if it isn't that's when I'll worry about the franchise)

I think Starfighter will be a hit too because of Gosling and the fact it's doing something new. It'll (hopefully) feel fresh and exciting.

Yep, one more for Starfighter.

I didn't dislike Mandalorian & Grogu. It's a nice, harmless adventure. But time and money are limited resources, and I would NEVER recommend people watch it in theaters.

Star wars needs to break away from the Skywalker story, or anything related to a story any fan would "expect" to see in a movie. There are SO many options to choose from, even if you consider the Disney focus on creating a new multi-decade fan base, and stop dividing the most solid/loyal global fanbase. I feel Disney may have recognized the error that was made when solidly established EU lore suddenly "didn't exist". This did not make the Skywalker story those choose to tell more successful. It did the opposite. And the Star Wars franchise has, thus far, still not recovered.

With this in mind I would choose a story that, arguably, could relate to that issue. The Yuzung Vong for example, and yes I realize the irony there as it relates to Skywalkers, would be an amazing choice. Skywalkers could be completely left out of said story, the war encompassed an entire era of time. It also deals with Jedi coming to terms with situations where their ability to wield the force is entirely negated. In my humble opinion it's some of the best EU storytelling that's been done to date. And all of it was wiped from canon simply so Chewbacca could make an appearance in a couple of movies, for a couple of minutes, and have virtually zero actual impact on the story. I think that, not only could it help repair damage that has been done to the fan base, but if done well it could completely excite an entire new generation of fans.

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22 hours ago, WrathofCaedus said:

Star wars needs to break away from the Skywalker story, or anything related to a story any fan would "expect" to see in a movie. There are SO many options to choose from, even if you consider the Disney focus on creating a new multi-decade fan base, and stop dividing the most solid/loyal global fanbase. I feel Disney may have recognized the error that was made when solidly established EU lore suddenly "didn't exist". This did not make the Skywalker story those choose to tell more successful. It did the opposite. And the Star Wars franchise has, thus far, still not recovered.

With this in mind I would choose a story that, arguably, could relate to that issue. The Yuzung Vong for example, and yes I realize the irony there as it relates to Skywalkers, would be an amazing choice. Skywalkers could be completely left out of said story, the war encompassed an entire era of time. It also deals with Jedi coming to terms with situations where their ability to wield the force is entirely negated. In my humble opinion it's some of the best EU storytelling that's been done to date. And all of it was wiped from canon simply so Chewbacca could make an appearance in a couple of movies, for a couple of minutes, and have virtually zero actual impact on the story. I think that, not only could it help repair damage that has been done to the fan base, but if done well it could completely excite an entire new generation of fans.

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I saw A New Hope when I was 9 years old and when I was 40, I rekindled my love of Star Wars when I read my first book. I spent the next two years reading everything I could get my hands on. There wasn't a story that I didn't like and when Disney got rid of the old canon, I realized that I would never get to see any of the books that I loved, play out on the big screen.

I had dreamed of the day, I would get to see Luke Skywalker rebuild the jedi order just like I read in the books. I thought the jedi academy would have made a great trilogy or the Yuzun Vong.

My dream was killed by someone at Disney who wasn't a true Star Wars fan.

They gotta fire very single current employee at LucasFilm

Star Wars can not be fixed until Lucasilm is fixed

LucasFilm as is is broken

I agree but what I don't understand is why they thought that, creating a whole new canon would be better than the original stories that came after the original trilogy? They were the stories that everyone already loved.

I do think it's been tainted to the point where the only way Star Wars is going to work again is if it goes away for a few years before trying again. It would be impossible to do so, especially with Disney+ around, but like there just needs to be like no projects to give fans a reason to miss the franchise so they support it